Thursday, May 13, 2004

Taekwondo - The disputes

Let's forget about sajak for a while. I'm writing this in response to a bulletin posted by a friend of mine, Bernard and Joshua Wong, in the friendster.com page. The article posted by them were as follow:

Message: Hello, I 'm writing this in response to ever increasing "claims" that Taekwondo(tkd) is a non-practical martail art. I'm sad to say that even practitioners of this art art to be held responsible for this wild accusation. This "black belts" definitely are the direct
product of the popularity of the popularity of the OLYMPIC TAEKWONDO or (World Taekwondo
Federation)WTF practioners.

I'm Practising the so-call TRADITIONAL taekwondo
called the CHON-JI(Blue Cottage) Tkd.

A slight briefing on TKD history:

i) It's the youngest martial art(created in 1955 in South Korea)

ii) It's the only martial art created by the military- in contrast to the WTF's claim.

iii) The founder of the art is Major General Choi Hong Hi not the ex-WTF president, Dr. Kim.

iv) The name TAEKWONDO was named and created by Gen. Choi in 1955, was practise as an experimental South Korean Army Fitness & unarmed combat syllabus and sanctioned by the General himself.

v) The syllabus includes kicks, punches, breathing techniques, power breaking, pattern
(hyungs/tuls) weapon disarming, grappling, fallings and joint-locking and saw it's effectiveness in the Korean War and Vietnam War. Korean soldiers were feared by their enemies and innocent civillians.

The formation of the World Taekwondo Fedaration as a diplomatic tool for South Korea lead to the dissappearance to the TRADITIONAL forms of taekwondo. WTF mainly focusses on sparring
(Kickings only!!!) No wonder ppl mistaken TKD as an unpractical kicking art.

Currently TRADITIONAL TKD id governend by two organizations which are smaller than WTF. They are:

i) International Taekwondo Federation(ITF)- lead by late General Choi himself.

ii) Global Taekwondo Federation(GTF)-lead by late Master Park Jung Tae, who himself learnt
TKD from General Choi but spilt to form his own ORGANIZATION besides claiming his superiority over Gen. Choi by declaring himself a GRANDMASTER.

I would recommend ppl intersted in learning this wonderful as a martial art to practise ITF or GTF forms, but preferably ITF since it was created by General Choi. WTF would be
recommended for the competitive going individuals who are only intersted in sparring.

Note: the reason for so many Martail Arts is because no particular system is perfect! Pick
your choice of which art to practise. Thanks. Take care. Aurevoir...

Bernard Copyright
Sunway college students who are intersted in
joining Tkd pls contact Joshua Wong 0175612775 or
Jeremy 0124920123.thank u!


Responding to his article above, I posted another bulletin in the friendster.com page, to express my stand. My article:

Message: I'm writing this in response to Joshua Wong's recent bulletin. For those who doesn't know him, Joshua is actually a student of Sunway College, and the president for the Taekwondo(ITF) club. Since I am in a different style of Taekwondo (WTF Taekwondo), I feel the burden of responsibilities to responsd to Joshua's bulletin lies on me.

I personally disagree with Joshua's statement in the Bulletin. I think it is inappropriate for Joshua to write such statement, as he is the president for ITF, so his statement represents his club's stand. While in Sunway College, we have various styles of martial arts: Shito Ryu Karate, Taekwondo WTF, Jujitsu, and Taekwondo ITF. These clubs had been operating harmoniously, and we wouldn't want any misunderstanding to rise between any of these clubs. As the martial arts club in Sunway college are under one roof: (we used to train in the same venue although different times, also we are all under MR Justin of the SSD).


Some statements in Joshua's bulletin was inaccurate (i don't know whether he did it on
purpose of accidently). But the history of Taekwondo is actually in the official history of
Korea. And the most trusted source of history is ofcourse the one which made official by the
government of the country. I do not wish to pinpoint which statement was made wrong, and i
also do not wish to correct them here. As I beleive that would only rise more problems
between ITF club and WTF. But for those who wish to know, I am prepared to give an answer if you message me personally. I beleive posting the answers in bulletin will just rise more anger between WTF and ITF members. PEACE---NO WAR!!!


And in respond to that statement of mine, Bernard and Joshua express their apology to me, and also hand me a disk. However, I had a porblem opening the files in the disk, as there was some kind of error occured. Bernard than sent me a message, stating his stand relating to the disputes between WTF and ITF. His message is as below:


If u have not read my article carefully. U must notice this statement.

"Note: the reason for so many Martial Arts is because no particular system is perfect! Pick
your choice of which art to practise. Thanks. Take care. Aurevoir..."

I demand an apology from u, n a written statement in ur bulletin board.

What I wrote is based on actual hearing from WTF pratitioners that they practised is unpractical in life. When, i question them what they learnt in TKD, they replied kicking nothing more. Not to offend u, ok.

I'm not learning TKD to fight anyone. It's an art to be "treasured". I wrote it to clear
confusion by many WTF's on taekwondo. Do u know who named Taekwondo?

According to WTF's history, they only mention it was named in a martial art meeting in 1955 in South Korea. I dare u, ask ur instructor,

i) Who was the bigshot who called for this "meeting" to unify the opposing kwans in South Korea?

ii) Who gave the name "Taekwondo" during this meeting?

iii) Who was the person who changed the teaching of Karate in the South Korean military, police & defence into Taekwondo?


iv) Who was the person who brought the best South Korean Military Taekwondo Demonstration
team to perform in Malaysia during our Merdeka Celebration in the early 1960's?

v) Who was the Director of Inteligence, South Korean Chief of Staff who defended Taekwondo
when Tang Soo Doo(with some political support) tried to replaced TKD in the national level?

vi) Who ws the person who brought up some of the best WTF Grandmasters such as Jhoon Rhees, Grnadmaster Cho(TKD instructor of the yr), etc...? They all claimed that the man who founded taekwondo is General Choi in their websites & books. They even wrote that the original Hyungs/Tuls were Chang-hon Tuls(Blue Cottage) not the Palgwe or Poomse Taeguks. For ur information, Chang-hon Tul(1950's) was created by these "WTF" & "ITF" pioneer ppl(military) lead by General Choi.

vi)Major General Choi Hong Hi is South Korean General who is fully decorated. He is not a
North Korean General, U BALONY!!!!!

vii) World War II(1940's) -> Experimental Military self defence exercise sanctioned by General Choi(late 1940's) -> Officially became Taekwondo after unification of South Korean
Kwans chaired by General Choi(1955) -> Introduced to the international military community, when General Choi, send Demonstration Teams to many countries for Familiarization military excercise(1950's-1960's) -> Korean Taekwondo Association(1950's) -> International Taekwondo Federation(Seoul, South Korea: 1966), World Taekwondo Federation(South Korea: 1972)-> Introduction of WTF in Olympics 1988(South Korea)-> Official Olympic Sport(Sydney 2000) -> Death of General Choi(2002) -> unification of ITF & WTF(until now).

viii) What lies are u telling ppl that ITF is created in North Korea??????? It is true ITF is
practised there but only in late 1970's.... General Choi wants Taekwondo to be a instrument
of Diplomacy between the North & South Korea. The Taekwondo he spearheaded made ppl respect bow to the South Korean Flag but he is now called a "traitor" & a desperate Guy in search of publicity. He's the Unsung Hero of South Korea.

viii) The reason ITF was not endorsed by the South Korean Government was mainly due to the
coup d'etat in the early years of the South Korea Republic. The new president then wasn't favourable of Genral Choi because of his high position in the ousted government. Life for General Choi became harder after he send a diplomatic(publicly announced) TKD demo team to
North Korea to serve as a diplomatic gesture and to observe the Situation of the North Koreans. When he returned he was brandish a "Traitor" and was publicly defamed beyond repair. Then came along Dr. Kim who was a political foe of General Choi, he was instrumental in banishing General Choi from South Korea by constantly attacking him publicly as "North Korean Collaborator". He created The World Taekwondo Federation in 1972 & became it's president till his allegations of misusing his political influence to harm his political foes & some money laundry schemes.

Then, ITF was bigger when WTF was created, using propaganda that ITF is a communist assosiation, he blackmail many ITF instrutors to the WTF with his political influence. Many senior from the 1970's, WTf masters & grandmasters alleged that they were force to enter WTF in fear that their families will be threatened as they were labelled North Korean Collaborators. Many initialy wanted to leave WTF, but seeing that it was so successful they stayed back in WTF. The ITF lost in the Olympic bidding to WTF mainly due to political influence from Dr Kim. The issue of Olympics bidding of TKD was visualised by the General in the Early years of the formation of TKD in the 1960's(referring to newspaper articles in the Taekwondo Enclycopedia). Dr. Kim is just an opportunist in the right time, right situation & right Political party.

Who's Dr Kim?Does he practise TKD? Did he created TKD? Why was he arrested?- after much news publisity. Official investigation showed Dr. Kim was a notorious politician who used triads to harm his foes, abused the law to put other sports official in jail during the failure of a
international bidding on grounds that they purposely losed their way out, receiving bribes
from businessmn for sport tenderings, Used his political power in IOC to suppress other IOC
members, he even sued his rivals to brankrupcy on ground of unlawfull political practices,
etc.....

Poor General Choi, he was another victim of Dr Kim's political cruelty.

Anyway, when Dr Kim was arrested, the WTF.com & other WTF related media failed to mention the
defeat of their president. All mentioned was, Dr Kim resigned on grounds of unforseen
circumstances. What is WTF scared of? When international & korean media were "hoo haa"ing
on the Dr Kim's scandal where was the reporting from WTF media? I read about the Dr. Kim scandal in both the Star and News Straits Times, showing that media in Malysia shows concern about this issue.

My brother practises WTF, he's a junior black belt(under 15yr) & he tells me TKD is
useless!!!!!!! All he trained is kicking and kicking then speed and power.... He told me
there were no selfdefence taught. Another WTF black belt friend who join KARATE in UTP, told
me what he learnt in TKD was useless as there are no hand techiques. This are example of the
failure of Olympic TKD. Another guy,my classmate, from Sunway Jujitsu, a WTF black belt, mentioned TKD is only useless n there are no selfdefence in TKD n Jujitsu is the undefeatble martial art!!!!! Another Jujitsu friend, ex-wtf, mentioned his experience is nothing but fitness and sparring. Many ex-WTF but now Karate practitioners, mentioned the reasons they quit WTF was because of lack of "Real" life defense techniques. Another WTF guy, after seeing ITF sparring video ask me, "I thought u can't use hand technique in TKd". These are the proves of the inferiority overall techniques of WTF.

Actually WTF practises Selfdefence like the military TKD, but lost it's essence due the popularization of the kicking beauty of TKD. I don't hate WTF but I hate the course the art is going into the martial sport category not martial art. General Choi created TKD with the
combination of techniques. Like in the article I wrote;

"v) The syllabus includes kicks, punches, breathing techniques, power breaking, pattern
(hyungs/tuls) weapon disarming, grappling, fallings and joint-locking and saw it's effectiveness in the Korean War and Vietnam War. Korean soldiers were feared by their enemies and innocent civillians."

A challenge to u, i dare u, to tell me whether u learnt the technique I mentioned above?

One thing that makes me sick is the attitude of the WTF practitioners. I remembered at a TKD
booth, last yr, a girl introducing herself as a WTF black belt(so what?), there she sinisterly laugh at our techniques. I find it annoying but she laughed at our sparring, ridiculed our patterns(Chang-hon Tuls) & mention WTF is the ultimate TKD. At our booth, she even dared to ask us to quit ITF and join WTF to enjoy the Olympic Benefits. She was lucky me & the others tolerated because we where are taught in our Taekwondo Oath," I shall never misuse Taekwondo". We could have beat her up publicly & give the Sunway College population a free "demonstration". We chose not to, do u learn that in WTF? What I found suprising was she call our sparring as "Ronald Mcdonald shoes" sparring because of the safety equipments which resembled "Ronald Mcdonald".

Back in high school, WTF's discredit ITF practitioners by labelling them as "Gorrila" Taekwondo. Reason: our pattern has a technique which mimicks a gorrila action. Do u justify
this?

Does ur friend above represent the entire WTF community? What a shame if it is the case..... My brother doesn’t act like that.


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Well, let me see... First of all he (Bernard) stated that he heard from friends, who are WTF practicioners, saying that they feel that Taekwondo is not practical. This clearly shows a very bad understanding of martialarts, and of Taekwondo in particular. If one would just understand that Taekwondo consist of two components, which are: Martial arts (self defense) and Martial Sport (for fitness purpose). Martial art, is the part where the Taekwondo practicioner would be practicing the Poomsae (also known as Kata in the japanese language), which is the basic and the very foundation of Taekwondo movements. Also one would be practicing some self defense (lockings and so) and also street fighting. While for the martial sport part, it is more towards competition, or sparring. It's aim is to train the fitness of the practicioners. 99% of sparing are kickings and footworks. Punches are used very rarely. This is due to the Olympic Taekwondo rules, which makes it easier to score with a kick rather than a hand strike. Further more, legs can reach further than the hand can do.

It is clear here, when one complain, that what they learn in Taekwondo is not practical, that means its actually their mistake. This is because, they should know that there are accademies which concentrate more on martial sport, rather than martial art. But there are also accademies which concentrate more on martial arts to martial sports. This give practicioners of Taekwondo the choice of whether they prefer sports, or arts. So if they complain not practical, they should have look for Taekwondo accademy which concentrate more on arts. The combination of martial sport and martial art, makes Taekwondo a very rich system of self defense.

One should also understand why Taekwondo is made sport. This relates to the very history of Taekwondo itself. Before the name 'Taekwondo' was given to the art, long time ago, it was called with various names. To name a few: Tae Kyon, Hwa Rang, and Tang Shou. It was the tradition of the people during the old days, that they would gather on march 10 every year at a site of ritual, where they enjoyed a sword dance, archery, Taekkyon contests and so on. Taekkyon contest is a combat competition, which is similar to the Taekwondo competition (sparring) today, but in a traditional form. So.... martial arts as sports.............. is the tradition of the Korean people. Nothing is wrong with the sport taekwondo today (merely preserving the Korean traditon)!!

Well, now let me answer the questions asked to me by Bernard in his message to me:

Do u know who named Taekwondo?
Taekwondo was named in a martial art meeting in 1955 in South Korea. In the meeting, General Choi Hong Hi suggested the name 'Taekwondo' to the meeting members. Let me make it clear here...He suggested. He did not name it, he merely suggest the name. In a meeting, surely there will be suggestions. But the one giving the suggestions does not mean they are the one who name it. The name would not come into being if the other meeting board does not agree. The name 'taekwondo' was agreed, because to stop using chineese words for the martialart's name. And also, that taekwondo is similar to the traditional name of Tae Kyon.

Who was the bigshot who called for this "meeting" to unify the opposing kwans in South Korea?
General Choi was one of the many kwans leader who was involve with unifying the kwans. However, he used his military power in doing so. A source by Lee Kyong-myong, a professor in the Yong Inn University states:
Especially, when Choi Hong Hi used his military authority to hop into the Taekwondo world by founding the Oh Do Kwan, the civilian Kwan leaders and pioneers and he began to develop complications regarding the direction of Taekwondo.

Who was the person who changed the teaching of Karate in the South Korean military, police & defence into Taekwondo?
Again, his military power. Note, I am not trying to deny General Choi's contribution in the developement of Taekwondo, but what I'm trying to stress here, is that: "too bad, he left the Korean Taekwondo Association to lead his own way.." I see General Choi's history in Taekwondo similar to the history of Dato' Onn Jaafar. No one could deny Dato' Onn's contribution to the struggle of acheiving Malaysia's independence. However, again: "too bad, he left UMNO, to lead his own way..."


Who was the person who brought the best South Korean Military Taekwondo Demonstration team to perform in Malaysia during our Merdeka Celebration in the early 1960's
Same answer as above. Note, General Choi was also the diplomatik ambassador of Korea to Malaysia. So surely it was his duty to promote Korean culture. Duty is something must be done. It is his job. He is paid (salary) for that.

Who was the Director of Inteligence, South Korean Chief of Staff who defended Taekwondo when Tang Soo Doo(with some political support) tried to replaced TKD in the national level?
Same answer as above.

Who ws the person who brought up some of the best WTF Grandmasters such as Jhoon Rhees, Grnadmaster Cho(TKD instructor of the yr), etc...? They all claimed that the man who founded taekwondo is General Choi in their websites & books. They even wrote that the original Hyungs/Tuls were Chang-hon Tuls(Blue Cottage) not the Palgwe or Poomse Taeguks. For ur information, Chang-hon Tul(1950's) was created by these "WTF" & "ITF" pioneer ppl(military) lead by General Choi.
Gen Choi trained these people, but that was before the seperation of WTF and ITF. While for the Hyungs/Tuls, one must understand that Taekwondo is a modern martial art. It is a developing art, and not a stagnant art, like most other traditional martialarts. It keeps track with time, and develops new skills through scientific research.(WTF has a university in Korea: Yong Inn University. This university specialise in sports, particularly martialarts of Taekwondo). WTF is the only martial art which develops and keep changing according to time, through scientific research.

Major General Choi Hong Hi is South Korean General who is fully decorated. He is not a North Korean General, U BALONY!!!!!
I never said he is a North Korean General. Although he WAS a South Korean General, but again; "too bad, he left to lead his own way...."

World War II(1940's) -> Experimental Military self defence exercise sanctioned by General Choi(late 1940's) -> Officially became Taekwondo after unification of South Korean Kwans chaired by General Choi(1955) ->Introduced to the international military community, when General Choi, send Demonstration Teams to many countries for Familiarization military excercise(1950's-1960's) -> Korean Taekwondo Association (1950's) ->International Taekwondo Federation(Seoul, South Korea: 1966), World Taekwondo Federation(South Korea: 1972)->Introduction of WTF in Olympics 1988(South Korea)-> Official Olympic Sport(Sydney 2000) ->Death of General Choi(2002) -> unification of ITF & WTF(until now).
Again and again... i'm stressing that i'm not trying to deny his contribution, but; "Too bad, he left to lead his own way..."

What lies are u telling ppl that ITF is created in North Korea??????? It is true ITF is practised there but only in late 1970's....General Choi wants Taekwondo to be a instrument of Diplomacy between the North & South Korea.The TAekwondo he spearheaded made ppl respect bow to the South Korean Flag but he is now called a "traitor" & a desperate Guy in search of publicity. He's the Unsung Hero of South Korea.
It is not created in North Korea? Then where was it created? One must understand, the history first, than one can talk about this matter. When General Choi was still in South Korea, what he practiced WAS NOT ITF. Because during that days, there was no such thing as WTF or ITF. There was only such thin as Korean Taekwondo Federation (KTA). It is true that Gen Choi try to spread Taekwondo to North Korea, but that does not mean he is trying to make it as instrument of diplomacy between the North & South Korea. His act of trying to spread Taekwondo to the Communist area was not acceptable, and so the people of South Korea did not agree with his act. Since he does not get any support from the South Korea people anymore, so he step down from being the president of KTA. (Isn't that's how democracy works, dude...) After stepping down, he lead his own way; again: "too bad, he left to lead his own way..." After he left, this is when ITF starts to grow. But ITF never and never ever had been born in the South. How could it be born in the South, when it was only created after General Choi left South Korea?.. Think bout it, dude...

Then, ITF was bigger when WTF was created, using propaganda that ITF is a communist assosiation, he blackmail many ITF instrutors to the WTF with his political influence. Many senior from the 1970's, WTf masters & grandmasters alleged that they were force to enter WTF in fear that their families will be threatened as they were labelled North Korean Collaborators. Many initialy wanted to leave WTF, but seeing that it was so successful they stayed back in WTF. The ITF lost in the Olympic bidding to WTF mainly due to political influence from Dr Kim. The issue of Olympics bidding of TKD was visualised by the General in the Early years of the formation of TKD in the 1960's(referring to newspaper articles in the Taekwondo Enclycopedia). Dr. Kim is just an opportunist in the right time, right situation & right Political party.
This is very contrasting with my answer above. However, i'm not surprise, as there are many version of history. And the most reliable, is ofcourse the version which is made official by the government. There is also the full history of Taekwondo here by a professor in Yong Inn University. Do read it through, and the answer of the above statement of Bernard, lies in the research. You may also want to see the official history of Taekwondo. This version is recognized by the South Korea Government.

Who's Dr Kim? Does he practise TKD? Did he created TKD? Why was he arrested?- after much news publisity.Official investigation showed Dr. Kim was a notorious politician who used triads to harm his foes, abused the law to put other sports official in jail during the failure of a international bidding on grounds that they purposely losed their way out, receiving bribes from businessmn for sport tenderings, Used his political power in IOC to suppress other IOC members, he even sued his rivals to brankrupcy on ground of unlawfull political practices, etc.....Anyway, when Dr Kim was arrested, the WTF.com & other WTF related media failed to mention the defeat of their president. All mentioned was, Dr Kim resigned on grounds of unforseen circumstances. What is WTF scared of? When international & korean media were "hoo haa"ing on the Dr Kim's scandal where was the reporting from WTF media? I read about the Dr. Kim scandal in both the Star and News Straits Times, showing that media in Malysia shows concern about this issue.
Well... its true that Dr Kim was the president for WTF. However, WTF practicioners does not look at Dr Kim as the soul of WTF. WTF do not treat him like how ITF treat General Choi. Dr Kim is just a former president, and if he proved to be guilty, he should be punished. He stepped down, just like General Choi. The difference is, General Choi stepped down because of trying to spread Taekwondo to communist area, while Dr Kim resigned because he is arrested on certain grounds of offend.

My brother practises WTF, he's a junior black belt(under 15yr) & he tells me TKD is useless!!!!!!! All he trained is kicking and kicking then speed and power.... He told me there were no selfdefence taught. Another WTF black belt friend who join KARATE in UTP, told me what he learnt in TKD was useless as there are no hand techiques. This are example of the failure of Olympic TKD. Another guy,my classmate, from Sunway Jujitsu, a WTF black belt, mentioned TKD is only useless n there are no selfdefence in TKD n Jujitsu is the undefeatble martial art!!!!!Another Jujitsu friend, ex-wtf, mentioned his experience is nothing but fitness and sparring. Many ex-WTF but now Karate practitioners, mentioned the reasons they quit WTF was because of lack of "Real" life defense techniques. Another WTF guy, after seeing ITF sparring video ask me, "I thought u can't use hand technique in TKd". These are the proves of the inferiority overall techniques of WTF.
Reading this statement made me laugh.. It shows shallow understanding of Martialarts. I've already stated before, that there are accademies which put more emphasis on real martialarts, and there are also accademies which put more emphasis on martial sports. So don't complain. If one thik the accademy they are on, are more towards sports, and one prefer real martial arts, so go find other taekwondo accademy which concentrate on arts. If just one would understand that no martial arts in the world is complete. Bernard talks about his friends who was in Taekwondo but then join karate, or jujitsu... This really shows that there is no true understanding on Martialarts as a whole; philosophy, concept, techniques, etc... There is no such thing as undefeatable martialart! I myself practices various styles of martialarts. I'm a practicioner of Taekwondo (WTF), Silat Sendeng, Silat Gayong Malaysia, Kobudo in Karate (the weapon art in Karate), and Tanaka Ryu Jujitsu. From all the martialarts I learn, I'd say that all of them are practical and usable in real combat situation. Dude.. it's really up to the practicioner. If the practicioner cannot make full use of the art, and than sees the art as not practical, than it's not the art's fault... it's the practicioners' fault....

Actually WTF practises Selfdefence like the military TKD, but lost it's essence due the popularization of the kicking beauty of TKD. I don't hate WTF but I hate the course the art is going into the martial sport category not martial art. General Choi created TKD with the combination of techniques. Like in the article I wrote;
"The syllabus includes kicks, punches, breathing techniques, power breaking, pattern(hyungs/tuls), weapon disarming, grappling, fallings and joint-locking and saw it's effectiveness in the Korean War and Vietnam War. Korean soldiers were feared by their enemies and innocent civillians."
A challenge to u, i dare u, to tell me whether u learnt the technique I mentioned above?

I'm tired of answering such questions.. again and again, I'm stressing that it is up to the accademy. If the accademy stress on martialsports, so find other accademy. There are lots of taekwondo accademy which teaches all those kicks, puncher, breathing techniques, power breaking, pattern (poomsae), weapon disarming, grappling, fallings, and joint locking. To give an example: Universal Taekwondo Accademy branch in Negeri Sembilan, instructor: Abdul Hameed. In Sunway College, the WTF club gives equal emphasis to sports, and to martialarts. As to your dare, as a matter of fact yes, I do learn all those techniques! Infact, some of the joint locking techniques, I've Thought Bernard's friend: Joshua Wong. I don't know if he still remember those techniques I thought him.

One thing that makes me sick is the attitude of the WTF practitioners. I remembered at a TKD booth, last yr, a girl introducing herself as a WTF black belt(so what?), there she sinisterly laugh at our techniques. I find it annoying but she laughed at our sparring, ridiculed our patterns(Chang-hon Tuls) & mention WTF is the ultimate TKD. At our booth, she even dared to ask us to quit ITF and join WTF to enjoy the Olympic Benefits. She was lucky me & the others tolerated because we where are taught in our Taekwondo Oath," I shall never misuse Taekwondo". We could have beat her up publicly & give the Sunway College population a
free "demonstration". We chose not to, do u learn that in WTF? What I found suprising was she call our sparring as "Ronald Mcdonald shoes" sparring because of the safety equipments which resembled "Ronald Mcdonald". Back in high school, WTF's discredit ITF practitioners by labelling them as "Gorrila" Taekwondo. Reason: our pattern has a technique which mimicks a gorrila action. Do u justify this? Does ur friend above represent the entire WTF community? What a shame if it is the case... My brother doesn’t act like that.

A matured person would be able to think, that why would one or few groups of people be treat as representing the whole body of WTF? WTF is a world body, and this few little fella that missact representing the whole body??!! You must be joking!! How about Joshua's dispute with the instructor of Jujitsu club of Sunway College? Is that not miss act also?


3 comments:

Anonymous said...

Whatever it is, Teakwon-Do came from the same source, whether its WTF or ITF. To make this matter easier, just put it this way, WTF is a sports oriented Teakwon-Do, hereby, It is bound to the Olympics Regulation during tournament. ITF is martial arts oriented, meaning it is only bound to its OWN rules during tournaments. Although the patterns between WTF and ITF varies, i would still clarify that WTF and ITF ARE FROM THE SAME SOURCE, there is no use for unprofessional disputes between both of you. The Korean Authority would NOT publish the REAL history of Teakwon-DO as it is used as a propaganda material for the cold wat between the South and North Korea. As the second person to the Sunway Monash Teakwon-Do (ITF) Club, I would like to apologise on the behalf of my members(and my first person)if there is any misunderstanding between you and them.

lieawulf said...

:) salah ruang komentar. Please view my comment on tkd on your previous entry, thanks!!

Rajiv Finn said...

heya.. well considering myself a beginner in tkd, i dont really knw enuff abt history to say anything, but i will mengamalkan 'independent seach for the truth through questioning and research'. wht a great philosofy. :) neway, i think the dispute shld never have come up in the first place. i joined taekwondo cuz i realised i had hours of free time and i wanted to keep fit. now after i join, im amazed by the way its practised, learning to kick isnt simply kicking to hurt someone. its about the human body and testing the limits. i never knew i was capable of stretchin my legs 180 degrees till i saw Ideal doing it minutes before my yellow belt exam. i still believe im in taekwondo to grow physically and push the limit of the human body.

still.. i cld be wrong, but i guess before we start any disputes, ask ourself, did we join taekwondo to argue about its origin? or to impress girls(loL)? or to keep fit? still it would be important to know of its origin. granted, it would be an advantage to keeping your girlfriend. and it definately will help to keep us healthy.

so there you have it!
*the purpose of my joining taekwondo*

--rajiv finn

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